Airtel's Fake Court Case by their Recovery Team (21st April 2010)

Background - Got an Airtel Connection and got it disconnected
      We (I and my roommates) purchased an Airtel broadband connection with Wi-Fi. The salesman gave the connection and he assured to give us router in 2 days. But we didn’t get the router for 1.5 months. We told them we won’t pay until we get the router. They agreed. But they sent the bill. We didn’t pay. Then daily they used to call and I used to tell them same thing hundreds of time that too from the beginning and they used to agree that it’s their fault and no one will call again but they did call again. This wasn’t enough. They also sent strong muscular men at home to collect the bill who don’t even know English or Hindi and their job was to collect money at any cost not to negotiate. We talked to their executives on phone and tell him everything again from the beginning. Then they sent us a notice that if we don’t pay they will police case. I talked to a girl named Geeta, who we were supposed to talk according to the notice, and told her everything. She said she will talk to her manager and inform me at 4 PM but she didn’t. I called her at 5 PM then next day at 4 PM but she said that we shouldn’t worry she will take care we don’t receive any more notice. But still we received a notice next month with a new name, let’s take it Seeta, and I had to do same stupid conversations again. Then 3-4 months there was no communication. We assumed everything is settled.

Morning - Call from a reader to a Tees Hazari Court's Judge
      Then today I was getting ready to go to my office. I received a call. A man named Gajendra Yadav asked if that was Aditya Murthy. I told Aditya is my roommate. He informed me his hearing was at 12 Noon, asked him to come to court 4, Tees Hazari court Delhi. I was shocked and asked him what the matter was. He asked if there is anybody of my relation or friend in Delhi to send if possible. I said that there was no one but asked what happened. He said he can’t tell me anything but I ignored 2 notices of previous notices and was ignoring this 3rd one too. So I was charged Rupees 86000 for Contempt of court. If I wasn’t present in court this time, I will be in serious trouble. Eighty-Six Thousand, oh my god what the hell? I was drenched in cold sweat. When I told him that I have no idea about it and can’t be in court at 12 since I am in Bangalore and we never received any notice, then he said he can’t help and he was a reader to judge and gave me the number of my opposition government lawyer Sandhya Kaushik. I was a bit worried about what was happening but decided to keep my cool. I called her and told her that I was Deepak Mishra on behalf of Aditya Murthy, but she refused to tell me anything as I was not Aditya Murthy. I told her I will pay all fines for Aditya, still. She refused to argue with me, disconnected the call once and didn’t pick the next time. I talked to Gajendra Yadav again and told him that she is not even telling about the case what for or who have. He terrified me by saying that there were only 10 minutes to 12 and Sandhya Kaushik is my opposition lawyer and if she doesn’t talk to me or I don’t reach the court before my hearing, I will have to pay a bigger fine for Contempt of that court. He asked me to talk to her soon and then back to him within 10-15 minutes. I was almost trembling in fear as Aditya was unaware of this and I was the one who was responsible for not paying the bill. Then I called her again and this time I wanted to be a bit more aggressive and conscious because I had to convince her to talk to me, even though I was not Aditya Murthy and had to decide myself and as there was no time.

Noon - The Conversation with the opposition lawyer
      This time she picked the phone and I started in a diplomatic tone. I told her that I didn’t receive any of the notice and so wasn’t present any time in court and why would I not come if I had received a notice. There can be only possibility that Airtel might be the client who has filed a case against Aditya Murthy because only Airtel’s call of Aditya Murthy comes on my phone number and we have not followed the rule only in this case as we believe Airtel is wrong in this case. I told Aditya Murthy doesn’t know Hindi. She told she will talk to him in the language he understands. I said “You know Malayalam. How?”. When she still did not agree I told her that suppose in a morning, someone calls me and says your hearing for a murder case is at 12, come to court 4 and refuses to tell me who have I killed. This will obviously make me sick. At least I should know, before getting hanged, who have I killed and who have filed a case against me that I have killed someone. After 15-20 minutes of arguments, she agreed it was Airtel and started discussing the case. She said if we would have paid Rupees 3300 earlier or came to the previous hearing in other courts it wouldn’t have increased so much to 86000. It’s a very big amount, even if it will be shared among 5 housemates but still it's 86000. She told me to come to Delhi. I said that she know it too that it’s not possible. I asked if at all I get a lawyer and fight the case spending a Lakh rupees and win, but I won’t get the Lakh rupees back. So what’s the point in fighting this way? She is opposition lawyer and I said this. She was shocked and said how I can guarantee the win when all proofs are against me because she was the opposition lawyer and she hasn't seen any person like me before that is in trouble and saying that he will win. I said that I know how. She asked me what I do, what my father does. Then she asked me whether she can ask me a personal question which was my salary. I said 30000 in hand. Knowing my salary, her behavior towards me changed. She became little polite. She said then why didn’t we pay. I said it wasn’t about money. I proved to her that Airtel was at fault and they were very irresponsible too; also that we were about to case on Airtel in consumer court. It wasn’t that we didn’t have any intention to pay bills because we later took Airtel’s connection again with simpler conditions and are paying it properly. We didn’t pay because it’s not wrong to fight for the right and even we know the laws, so we believe we are on upper hand here. I am not much experienced. She might know more than me. She said does she seem to me like an 80 years old. I thought to ask her whether I can ask her a personal question which was her actual age but I didn’t. Obviously, my friend would get into trouble if anything happens. She asked me when I received the notice from Airtel, why didn’t I go to Airtel office and talk. I said don’t I have any work that I will take leave to do these things. She sort of scolded me for that that only I have work and others don’t. I asked her was she talking on behalf of Airtel. She said how many times she has to tell me she was a government lawyer. I said but right now it’s impractical to do anything, and then asked her politely what can be done? It was already an hour of discussion or arguments and 12 noon went unnoticed way earlier. She told me to talk to Gajendra Yadav, he can undo the fine for Contempt of court as we did not receive the notice.

After Noon - Paid the Bill
      Gajendra Yadav said if she withdraws the case its fine then things will settle. He was waiting for my call and he has been shifting Aditya’s file below other files since 12 and can do no more than 2-3 more times and asked me to act fast. She told me to pay the bill 3300 and send her the receipt number; she will withdraw the case and then I should send her a scanned copy of the receipt. I asked Gajendra Yadav that if I pay the bill and will it be like I was guilty and so I paid the bill. He said I can case on Airtel after this case is closed. So I did what was required. But if the case would have been in my name, I wouldn’t have paid it. Then I told Aditya everything and asked him should we go to consumer court but he said he won’t suggest that.

About the Conversation - Feeling Proud (Idiot)
      But that hour of arguments was WOW. It felt like I am so good. Though the lawyer Sandhya was so strict and firm, she might not have faced anyone like me so talkative and dominating. I am telling an opposition lawyer, who is claiming all proofs are against me, that I will fight the case and win easily but no point in doing it because a lot of money will be spent in doing so and won’t get it back even if I win. Even I was dominated in discussion many times and almost completely in the beginning when she wasn’t ready to talk and also got terrorized by her and her strict tone of speech because it was like any mistake I do will reflect on my friend and his career too. I can’t keep his career at stake. Also, 86000 is not a small amount even to share. Still, I kept talking to her. Even she panicked few times because a normal young guy, not even a lawyer was proving her and her client wrong. I felt that I am no less than a lawyer. But by the end of the whole talk session, I was so dehydrated that my mouth was completely dry. I can’t decide this was good or bad but was a very interesting time.

The Conclusion - Actually got fooled by Airtel's recovery team
      What was I proud of? Airtel got what they wanted. So basically, I have been fooled again. First by the salesman then now by their recovery team. Sandhya, Gajendra, and others no one was a lawyer or in any way related to court. They were just a part of Airtel's recovery team trying to threaten customers and get the bill paid. IT HURTS.

Comments

Anonymous said…
Gr8 experience, the only thing is you have been played by them, there was never a case, nor was the girl you talking to , a lawyer, it was a preety smart recovery company doing their job, just google for christ sake!!!
Anonymous said…
I got a Similar Call and the person on the call had a similar conversation with me as posted in this thread.

The person ( MR. Rakesh/ Rajesh Aggarwal ) gave me a mobile number and asked for talk to advocate who file a case against me in court. He told me to appear at the Delhi court the next preceding day. I called to that advocate n ask him about the matter. he told me this case is from reliance mobile company against me for non payment of my mobile bill. He told me to go to the reliance web world n pay the bill otherwise he will chrage the case of cheating n panalty of Rs. 40000 + against me.

His Number is : +91 8860735847 .

I would say there is no need to panic, just avoid taking the call and avoid giving any information like telephone number and address. When i enquired, I came to know that these things are very common as these cases go to the recovery cell, and they use these sort of tactics.

Courts usually send notices by registered post through the Indian Postal Department or served by a court official, and give sufficient time to respond. And the standard practice is you should have been served a legal notice first by a company's lawyer.

Similar Threads and Complaints

http://www.consumercomplaints.in/complaints/call-from-court-c66617.html
http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/01132091079
http://broadbandforum.in/airtel-broadband/61770-disappointed-nonsense-airtel-broadband-billing/
Vivek said…
Thanks a lot for sharing your experience in such detail manner. Even i got the exact call with the same information. Now I wont be so tensed as i was a while ago.

regards
Vivek
kathir said…
Airtel - Threaten
Yesterday after noon I got a call from Ranjith Sing (he told that he is a verification officer of Gwalior Session Court) and told that Advocate Alok Sharma is going to file a case against me, when i ask who is Alok Sharma and what case, be denied to tell any details. Also he send SMS the same matter. Finally after my request he gave Alok Sharma's number and case number as LM415 . Later I called Alok Sharma, he told Airtel is going to file a case against me, and need to pay 58k before 5 pm.

Ranjith sing : +91 78986 20132

Alok Sharma : +91 94075 86270
G Gowtham said…
Thanks a lot for the info. http://gpost.blogspot.com/2011/03/blog-post_16.html
Anonymous said…
I had a different experience.

When some calling from delhi and asking some thing in English/hindi, i was asking back to them to talk in telugu.. otherwise i can not understand any thing. then they keep the phone down. and most funny thing is in one of the call i spoke to them in a language even i dont know.. hahahhaaa...

these bleady telecom companies should answer for the biggest fraud of 1.75 lak rupees.. and 80% of these bill cases caused due to the inconvinience faced by them but not by customer.

Any thime the best thing is always go for BSNL.. they never cheat in billing or some thing else.. because they hardly work to make false business... in fact they hardly work even for their daily job. haha
Anonymous said…
What happened after you got this call? Did anything actually happen? I got a call just now too from this so called Ranjit & the same story re Alok Sharma & a court case.
komal cheema said…
same thing is goin on with me..
a guy ranjith is calling me nd he gave me no. of advocate alok. he said u hv to come to gwalior court nd pay 56k.
i ws tensd bt aftr reading al dis things em feeling relaxd.
thanx evrybdy
Deepak Mishra said…
I was 90% sure about it being fake. But what if it was in that 10%, my friend who was too innocent to know he is in trouble would have been in trouble.
desi munda said…
Hello Guys..Same thing happened to me yesterday. One guy called me and claimed that he is calling from Delhi and has notice for me and he gave me another number and told that this is the advocate just talk to him and try to resolve ur dispute and call me back within 10 minutes. I didnt call that advocate..then after 10 minutes the first guy claiming that he is police man again called me and threaten me that court wil take strick action against me if i dont talk to that advocate. Then I called that advocate.. He told me that i didnt pay Airtel's bill about 3500 and now they claimed about 70000 from me and sued me in the tees hazari court, delhi. He said if i know anyone in delhi the i should send him to meet this advocate otherwise he said just note my bank account, deposit 6500 for court fees in that account. I said him OK let me think. Then I called Airtel customer service and confirmed from them if there is any pending amount that I own. They confirmed me about 3500. Then I emailed same thing to airtel customer service and asked from him if they have registered any case against me? they confirmed me that there isnt any legal complication. \They suggest me to deposit that unpaid amount and though they appologized me if any one from collection agency threatens me on behalf of airtel. and they confirmed me that they'll investigate the things and will take strict action.
I paied that bill, but later i again received the call from s called police wala. And at this time I askd me why is he taking so tension about me. Is he my massi ka beta? then he disconnected the call.. Now I am gonna to register a police case against those guys for threatning me..

I request u guys if any one receive any call like that, just call the customer service and confirm from them and complain to them..
Unknown said…
balaji.t

hello friends i too got same kind of call from the delhi court,
some person called me and give a advocate number to speak on some court issue, or i need pay 50k as a penalty i did remember the name of person and the advocate name.i got same kind of calls from various palces such as gwallier, jhansi, agra and delhi, after reading all these i am relaxed i bit , but sure i will settle the issue with airtel customer care
Deepak Mishra said…
There are probably people from recovery team. Do not pay if you have a reason not to.
deshbhakt said…
believe me 99.99 percent of these gangs are lowest level guys reporting any where will not help(even if caught they will be released in a couple of days) ,they keep changing their phones and places.abusing them (am sure not very many can match their level) might give you a temp relief but not a perma solution, if you pay thinking the amount to be small ,you are in for more trouble,cause you get upgraded in their list as a person who will either readily pay or ultimately definitely pay up in the end..they were doingit erlierr nd they r doing it even today ,the post after this read carefully ,read the fine print,read between the lines, replicate it in otther forums,if u recv any call from such persons just keep repeating ---what u read below nd after a couple of calls send their numbers to an agency - i might post the links but u guys will understand urself where all to send such numbers nd believe me their numbers will automatically be scanned and traced , the more people get involved the merrier nd faster it will be
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guys the above post gave me a relief , some thing like this happened with me also , the guy on the other end demanded money on one pretext or the other nd threatened to kill our leaders and bomb my city if i dont pay them money and ask the govt to release their terrorists, now everytime their called ( 7 different numbers ) i told them that they can kill me nd took a couple of names of current leaders them also but we are deshbhakts and we will never bow down to their --isi ,pakistan ,dubai .dawoods or isis wiishes .and i told them that u want to blow up our tees hazari or patiaala house ,or u want to blow up vikaspuri police station ,that u want to kill our leaders u will not be able to do, u r threatning me with rdx and ied .etc etc .
guys i had to do this a 5 10 times believe me after that NOW i call them nd now they dont pick up nd 4 out of 7 numbers also do not exist now dunnow those phones went under scanner or what i still ry other three number 10 20 times a day ,have sent heir numbers to NIA nd IB also got 2 calls from anony numbers asking bout these phones told them that i am deshbhakt nd not terrorised by theese terrorists was further instructed to pass on any info to one of the emails given to me, which i can not share for obvious reasons ,now their phones our silent ,switched off and iam happy ,let us not get cowed down by such elements-terrorists ,let us rise to the occasion ,let us unite nd show our deshbhakti JAI HIND JAI HIND JAI HIND ,BHARAT MATA KI JAI
Anonymous said…
Oh yea it hurts a lot when such companies make you fool. They never ever go to court for settlement of such small money. One should know that starting a legal processing itself is huge financial burden on company.Companies play all kind of tricks to get money out of customer's pocket. INn my case I have all the recordings and i have told very clearly that any threat will be cosindered as harassment and airtel has to pay dearly if i file cases so don't challenege me for legal proceedings. And guess what no calls nothing now.

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